Chris Kluwe played in the NFL for eight years, but he’s been a gamer for 26 — and he’s tired of the misogyny in today’s …
This article expresses my vehement rage towards GG extremely well. Chris Kluwe, you beautiful man.
Btw, he appears to follow the game industry more closely than most games journalists who’ve written on this topic. You may have been let go from the Vikings because they’re a bunch of homophobic doucenozzles, but I see a career in journalism for you, sir.
"You slopebrowed weaseldicks with zero reading comprehension and even less critical thinking skills who think an article claiming “Gamers are dead” is something bad? Fuck me sideways with a sandblaster."
This is one of the best things I’ve ever read regarding GG.
I salute you, Chris Kluwe.
This is all based on a completely false presupposition, which is that “#gamergaters” are a unified monolithic entity.
That’s not actually true.
There’s not only no evidence that most of these people support the death threats and such; there’s good evidence suggesting that that’s a small group of instigators showing up to make trouble.
Remember those pictures of random white dudes showing up in Ferguson to throw shit at the police to make it look like a “riot” by the locals? Same deal, I think.
Well okay then. If that majority of supposedly good people of GG don’t want to be associated with people who send death threats, then MAYBE they shouldn’t organize under a hashtag started by and continually used by the people who send death threats? Like, normally when people are terrible in literally every way imaginable I don’t wear their brand, walk their walk, and talk their talk. I go elsewhere to the land of People Who Aren’t Potential Murderers because I don’t want people thinking I am a potential murderer. Don’t pretend like that hashtag was started by people with a noble cause, because oh boy oh boy it sure as fuck wasn’t. I mean, you want to be associated with these assgoblins? You can’t “reclaim” something that was rotten to the core from the start.
This is the formal fallacy of begging the question. You’re assuming the reporters are accurate, fair, and unbiased, and are accurately depicting the actual nature of the thing as a whole, in order to establish that the criticisms about bad journalists misrepresenting things were not a big part of it. You need a better source than a carefully edited, filtered, stream selected with intent to create an impression in the reader.
Who, exactly, is sending these death threats? The only source I’ve found that seemed to be doing actual research says it was probably a clickbait games reporter. Who “organized” this tag? Who sent the death threats? I was under the impression that the threats were mostly sent anonymously, leaving us with no way to tell who is actually sending them except guesswork and sleuthing.
I’ve seen a whole lot of posts by people who are clearly not actually these horrible misogynists, and who are convinced that they and theirs started the tag, and then the “assgoblins” started taking it over. And since a lot of them are women and LGBTs and other minorities, you know what you’re doing? Ignoring the voices of women, and LGBTs, who are in the gaming industry and would like to express concerns about things, and are doing their best to do so in a way that could conceivably be heard. But that’s okay, they’re probably not the right kind of people to listen to.
And the thing is, there is one part of that analysis which is very compelling, which is that the best tactic if you do not want to argue with people is to ignore the reasonable ones and focus on the extremists. This is why you see so much talk about ISIS, and so little about the rest of the Islamic world, in anti-Islamic writing. It’s why you see a lot of talk about drone killings, and very little about massive food and medical aid programs, when people talk about why they hate the US.
No one ever said GG was some “unified monolithic entity”, either, but if they’re gonna organize their shit under a hashtag they proudly display on everything and use that fucking hashtag to target anyone they don’t like, they sure as fuck deserve to all get “unfairly” lumped into one big group of rabid fuckweasles. Cause hey, guess what buddy, turns out rallying under a hashtag is totally a way to unify even if they are a leaderless group of shitstains. Sure they don’t all wear uniforms and meet up in a dingy rec center after bingo hours as they go over their monthly agenda while sipping instant coffee and munching donuts, but neither do feminists and they sure don’t mind lumping us all into a homogeneous blob of evil trying to bring about the doom and destruction of the world as we know it. You may as well “Not all men” at me, it’s basically the same boorish nonsense attempting to derail the actual issues of misogyny and rape culture very obviously making a dramatically negative affect on games as a medium and the lives of women and queer folk trying to create games.
Okay, so, walk me through this. Say I object to the state of gaming journalism and to the rampant misogyny in gaming. So what should I do to organize with like-minded people? Let’s say we make a hash tag to discuss it. How long do you think we can make posts about serious and reasonable concerns about gaming journalism under that tag before people start using it to make death threats against women? Would you say we could get twenty minutes, or do you think we might make it two full hours from the first time anyone starts publically noticing us?
Anyway, I’m done. GG has no redemption because it was built upon a foundation of piss and virulent gendered hatred and there’s naught to be done but rip it all out entirely and sure as fuck hope the next building isn’t haunted by the ghosts of misogynists past.
Except you’ve not actually established that it was actually built on that foundation, as opposed to “the assholes will come in and dominate any conversation they can”.
And you haven’t suggested any mechanism by which people who have legitimate concerns could do anything that would make you willing to ever consider listening to them. Because whatever they do, the assholes will be along shortly, and then you can just dismiss everything anyone said because of the assholes.
Pretty sure that allness-thinking about groups is the problem, not the solution.